The 2nd generation games introduced further legendary Pokemon with the legendary dogs. Suicune, Raikou, and Entei are encountered quite early in the games at the Burned Tower. This will trigger the beasts to flee and roam Kanto, and the player will be able to catch them somewhere within the wild region. In Pokemon Crystal, Suicune in particular has a prominent role throughout the narrative. Suicune is encountered several times during the player's journey and is associated closely with a new character Eusine, who's been searching for the legendary creature.
Suicune was featured on the box art for the Crystal version to reflect its role in the story. The narrative for Gold and Silver is identical in every way, and the only major differences between those games are the Pokemon available for capture.
Crystal, however, embellishes the story and makes some changes. The legendary Pokemon, Suicune , is encountered several times throughout the story, along with a new character, Eusine. The mythical dog and its compatriots are required to be awakened to challenge the gym leader, Morty.
Once stirred from its rest, the dog will be encountered in several scripted events. Other changes in Crystal include a tweak to the chain of events leading up to acquiring the Rising Badge. During this sequence, players will be able to obtain a special Dratini that knows the move ExtremeSpeed, if they can correctly answer a series of questions.
Additionally, a step was added necessitating players to meet the florist's assistant so that they could progress past the strange tree, which is also known as Sudowoodo. The Pokemon series makes changes in every generation and in the case of Pokemon Crystal, further changes were made to generation two. One of the major additions in Crystal is the ability for players to play as a female, which is a feature that would go on to be a series staple. Some locations received updated color palettes and layouts, marking minor changes from Gold and Silver.
Scizor down from B to C. You can't actually evolve your Scyther efficiently i. And even if you do, its movepool is very shallow. Tradeless Poliwag has no place in B. Even with Crystal's availability, it's too mediocre in spite the enormous advantage water-types have over others in this game in terms of movepool. Ironically, in contrast to our recent debate, Geodude could stand to rise. Its type matchups are just too good in much of the game. There are even good switch-ins for it in fights like Clair and Lance, and it tanks a half of Red's team.
Not afraid of Rockets at all, either. I also don't think there's a big qualitative difference between Graveler and Golem here, as Graveler seems to do fine in the matchups that were made for him.
Drowzee down from B. Its offence is very mediocre. Red Gyarados up to A. No need to look for it or train your Magikarp. Joins at a high level. Snorlax to B for his Kanto performance alone. Give him Curse and sweep Red.
Sudowoodo up for Rock-typing being good in the game and for having innate in this game, meaning you don't breed for it Rock Slide very early. Mandatory encounter too. Tauros up to A definitely. Great speed and attack. Catch with a Friend Ball for massive damage Returns applies to other normals as well, and some non-normals too. Miltank up from C for having a better movepool than Tauros in spite of having poorer attack.
Magnemite could go up from C if you do sacrifice your cash for the Thunder TM. But yeah, its movepool is pretty bad here. Machops are too low, both variants. Wooper is a water-type with early Earthquake access and Sludge Bomb but who cares. Up to B. Natu is p terrible. Down to D. Movepool isn't hot as expected from GSC but the combo of speed and power is good even if it is using just Surf and Icy Wind until the "postgame".
A IMHO. Other Pokemon who benefit from getting their evolution stone early would be Vaporeon, Flareon, Exeggcute movepool still sucks though , Vileplume. Heracross is too low in C. Tradeless Gastly is worthless. The one with the trade could rise to A considering Gengar has an awesome typing and learns all three punches by TM. If you play until Red, the time spent as Gastly isn't as bad anymore. Zubat is too low in D. Catch an underlevelled Golbat in the wild with a Friend Ball, use it in some gyms and give it some levels and it evolves.
Have it sweep things with Fly and Return at overkill speed. B easily, A not being out of the way. I've used Qwilfish before and it's way too good for D. Aipom, Sneasel, Houndour and Tyrogue are probably not bad enough for E. The former two hit decently hard Sneasel is great to use against Will and Sabrina, and Red's Espeon , while the latter two can feasibly catch up to the party in level, and Kanto is so easy that you might not even have to switch.
Lucchini said:. Could you give more details about the egg message? I didn't know that before. I wholeheartedly agree with some of Lucchini's suggestions.
Wooper is extremely good. B-tier at least. Miltank is way too good to C. B-tier imo. God dammit I just woke up. Tradeless Poliwag. Oglemi said:. Ender pelagic. Yeah definitely supporting GS Magmar for S, I completely forgot about it but it's so overpowered throughout the entire game. Colonel M said:. Furret I probably could rise too but it's a little weaker than some of its Normal-type brethren. Lickitung comes pretty late and is a lot weaker in comparison too so it probably could still stay in D.
One thing that helps is they have a diverse TM line-up. Just sucks that the TMs in this game are so whack and some have a really high demand Dig and Earthquake especially. They're kind of a pain to catch back up to the team but they have a pretty fast EXP gain to help them out too. Basically - might suck to hatch and not get the one you want, but it can still fill a Pokemon slot without too much hassle just to see.
Yeah Metal Coat is too late naturally. Though I would like to point out that Scizor learns Metal Claw naturally at Level 30 and is probably one of the better Steel-types you can get in the game which is why I did put it in B - Steel Wing late really blows though.
To be fair something that does help with Poliwag line is they get Rain Dance naturally at Level 25 - so their SpA seems a little less detrimental when your Surfs and Bubblebeams are hitting really damn hard. This makes the missing scenario a little more forgiving too. This one I'm rather nervous about though. One thing that helps is that Gyarados Red Gyarados specifically from here on out does help the team. It's a great HM Slave for starters and its offense can help you for a while in your quest.
I think the problem with Gyarados is beyond a certain point it's really horrible to train. Yes, Gyarados has a monstrous Attack stat but what does it really have to abuse with it? Hyper Beam is really late at Level 50 and Hydro Pump, though a helpful boost, still runs off of 70 base Special Attack which I want to coincidentally remind you that is equivalent to Hypno's.
I may consider A due to its near-free utility it can provide throughout a portion of the game but, even as an avid Gyarados fan, I probably wouldn't really use Gyarados too much past a certain point in GSC. I guess it learns Curse - but that's not until after the E4 and there are far better candidates for it. Already being done.
Though one minor note - Friend Ball does have the issue of having real-life time being used to be made. Green Apricorns aren't obtained until Route 42 either. The rule is simple, pick a few Pokemon available in the GSC games, decide what tier it belongs in. Of course, you'll need to refer to the list of users who I've trusted of expertly choosing what tier a Pokemon belongs in.
Please refer to this list when deciding what tier a Pokemon belongs in From the original thread said:. The tiers for Pokemon Gold, Sliver, and Crystal are based on the following: - Availability : Can you get them early on and are they easy to get? By that I mean hard to replace TMs such as ones you get from gyms. Murkrow for bottom: It is extremely unavailable. It has a poor stat distribution. It has a terrible movepool. It's weak and has low defences. Psychic immunity could be good for Sabrina and Ash.
Matchups as above. Literally the only reasons it's in High and not Top is that it requires trading and evolves late Level 25 is late in GSC. Learns Thunderbolt from tutor after Elite 4 Crystal only. Only disadvantage is its frailty. Poison typing means it will never be poisoned that's one less status to worry about , and resists every Pokemon Team Rocket uses besides Houndoom.
Here are a list of Johto people that it destroys: Whitney: can beat Miltank with Curse. Clair: Ice Punch beats her 3 Dragonair. Charizard and Aerodactyl are a bit more dangerous and should be handled by a Water-type Slowbro, Poliwrath.
Perfect Cell. Magikarp for top tier. Sweet jesus. Nah, here's my real suggestion. Misdreavus for bottom tier - Availability : Very rare, only found in Mt. Silver at night. It can't really put good TMs to use either besides maybe Psychic. It resists and is immune to a few things. Texas Cloverleaf This user has a custom title. Submitting Cyndaquil for top tier - Availability : Start: Available from the start of the game, as your starter. No difficulty to obtain - Stats : High: Once evolved into Typhlosion, it sports excellent stats, with great Speed and Special bulk, good attack and respectable bulk.
With a great speed stat it will often clean teams without taking damage at all. It also obtains super effective coverage on three gym leaders pre-e4. Surge: Earthquake, clean win Sabrina: Even match Janine: clean win Erika: lol Misty: Thunderpunch can beat the less defensive mons, Misty wins Brock: The ones with good defense win, but Omastar and Kabutops lose Blaine: Earthquake, clean win Blue: Advantage on Pidgeot, gyarados, exeggutor, neutral vs Arcanine and Alakazam but can win more often vs arcanine, loses to rhydon.
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